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The Axiom of Choice in the κ\kappa-Mantle

Andreas Lietz111Institut für Mathematische Logik und Grundlagenforschung, Universität Münster, Einsteinstrasse 62, 48149 Münster, FRG.   222Current address: Institut für Diskrete Mathematik und Geometrie, TU Wien, Wiedner Hauptstrasse 8-10/104, 1040 Wien, AT
This paper is part of the authors PhD thesis.
(September 2023)
Abstract

Usuba has asked whether the κ\kappa-mantle, the intersection of all grounds that extend to VV via a forcing of size <κ{<}\kappa, is always a model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}. We give a negative answers by constructing counterexamples where κ\kappa is a Mahlo cardinal, κ=ω1\kappa=\omega_{1} and where κ\kappa is the successor of a regular uncountable cardinal.

1 Introduction

Set-Theoretic Geology is the study of the structure of grounds, that is inner models of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC} that extend to VV via forcing, and associated concepts. Motivated by the hope to uncover canonical structure hidden underneath generic sets, the mantle was born.

Definition 1.1.

The mantle, denoted 𝕄\mathbb{M}, is the intersection of all grounds.

This definition only makes sense due to the uniform definability of grounds.

Fact 1.2.

There is a first order \in-formula φ(x,y)\varphi(x,y) such that

Wr={x|φ(x,r)}W_{r}=\{x|\varphi(x,r)\}

defines a ground for all rVr\in V and all grounds are of this form. Moreover, if κ\kappa is a cardinal and WW extends to VV via a forcing of size <κ{<}\kappa then there is rVκr\in V_{\kappa} with W=WrW=W_{r}.

This was proven independently by Woodin [Woo11] [Woo04], Laver [Lav07] and was later strengthened by Hamkins, see [FHR15].

This allows us to quantify freely over grounds as we will frequently do.
It was quickly realized that every model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC} is the mantle of another model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}, see [FHR15], which eradicated any chance of finding nontrivial structure in the mantle. However, the converse question remained open for some while, namely whether the mantle is provably a model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}. This tough nut was cracked by Toshimichi Usuba.

Fact 1.3 (Usuba,[Usu17]).

The mantle is always a model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}.

Thereby the mantle was established as a well behaved canonical object in the theory of forcing. Fuchs-Hamkins-Reitz [FHR15] suggested to study restricted forms of the mantle.

Definition 1.4.

Let Γ\Gamma be a class333In this case, we think of Γ\Gamma as a definition, possibly with ordinal parameters, so that Γ\Gamma can be evaluated grounds of VV. Γ\Gamma of forcings.

  1. (i)(i)

    A Γ\Gamma-ground is a ground WW that extends to VV via a forcing ΓW\mathbb{P}\in\Gamma^{W}.

  2. (ii)(ii)

    The Γ\Gamma-mantle 𝕄Γ\mathbb{M}_{\Gamma} is the intersection of all Γ\Gamma-grounds.

  3. (iii)(iii)

    We say that the Γ\Gamma-grounds are downwards directed if for any two Γ\Gamma-grounds W0,W1W_{0},W_{1} there is a Γ\Gamma-ground WW0,W1W_{\ast}\subseteq W_{0},W_{1}.

  4. (iv)(iv)

    We say that the Γ\Gamma-grounds are downwards set-directed if for any set-indexed collection of Γ\Gamma-grounds WrrX\langle W_{r}\mid r\in X\rangle there is a Γ\Gamma-ground WW_{\ast} contained in all WrW_{r} for rXr\in X.

  5. (v)(v)

    We say that Γ\Gamma is ground absolute if the Γ\Gamma-grounds of a Γ\Gamma-ground WW are exactly those common grounds of VV and WW that are Γ\Gamma-grounds from the perspective of VV, i.e. being a Γ\Gamma-ground is absolute between VV and all Γ\Gamma-grounds.

Remark 1.5.

Note that if Γ\Gamma is provably (in ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}) closed under quotients and two-step iterations then Γ\Gamma is ground absolute.

Fuchs-Hamkins-Reitz [FHR15] have shown abstractly that if Γ\Gamma is ground absolute and has directed grounds then 𝕄ΓZF\mathbb{M}_{\Gamma}\models\mathrm{ZF}. To prove 𝕄AC\mathbb{M}\models\mathrm{AC} they seemingly need the stronger assumption that the Γ\Gamma-grounds are downwards set-directed, the argument is as follows: Suppose X𝕄X\in\mathbb{M} is not wellordered in 𝕄\mathbb{M}. Then for every wellorder \prec of XX, we choose WW_{\prec} a Γ\Gamma-ground from which \prec is missing. By downwards set directedness, there is a Γ\Gamma-ground WW contained in all such grounds WW_{\prec}, but then XWX\in W is not wellordered in WW either, contradiction. The main result of this part shows that indeed simple downwards directedness does not suffice to prove choice in 𝕄Γ\mathbb{M}_{\Gamma} in general.

We will be interested in 𝕄Γ\mathbb{M}_{\Gamma} for Γ\Gamma the class of all forcings of size <κ{<}\kappa, where κ\kappa is some given cardinal. In this case, we denote the Γ\Gamma-mantle by 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa} and call it the κ\kappa-mantle. The associated grounds are the κ\kappa-grounds. The interest of the κ\kappa-mantle arose in different contexts.

The following is known:

Fact 1.6 (Usuba, [Usu18]).

If κ\kappa is a strong limit then 𝕄κZF\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models\mathrm{ZF}.

Usuba proved this by showing that the κ\kappa-grounds are directed in this case. Usuba subsequently asked:

Question 1.7 (Usuba, [Usu18]).

Is 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa} always a model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}?

We will answer this question in the negative by providing counterexamples for three different types of cardinals κ\kappa.

We also mention that Fuchs-Hamkins-Reitz demonstrated that 𝕄Γ\mathbb{M}_{\Gamma} can fail to be a model of choice for a different class of forcings, Γ={σ-closed forcings}\Gamma=\{\sigma\text{-closed forcings}\}.

Fact 1.8 (Fuchs-Hamkins-Reitz, [FHR15]).

If Γ\Gamma is the class of all σ\sigma-closed forcings it is consistent that 𝕄ΓZF¬AC\mathbb{M}_{\Gamma}\models\mathrm{ZF}\wedge\neg\mathrm{AC}.

It turns out that there is an interesting tension between large cardinal properties of κ\kappa and the failure of choice in 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}. On the one side, Usuba has shown:

Fact 1.9 (Usuba, [Usu18]).

If κ\kappa is extendible then 𝕄κ=𝕄\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}=\mathbb{M}. In particular 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa} is a model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}.

Indeed, this result was the initial motivation of investigating the κ\kappa-mantle. Sargsyan-Schindler [SS18] showed that a similar situation arises in the least iterable inner model with a strong cardinal above a Woodin cardinal for κ\kappa the unique strong cardinal in this universe. See also [SSS21] and [Sch22b] for further results in this direction.
On another note, Schindler has proved the following.

Fact 1.10 (Schindler, [Sch18]).

If κ\kappa is measurable then 𝕄κZFC\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models\mathrm{ZFC}.

The big difference to Fact 1.9 is that the existence of a measurable is consistent with the failure of the Bedrock Axiom444The Bedrock Axiom states that the universe has a minimal ground, which turns out to be equivalent to “𝕄\mathbb{M} is a ground”.. Particularly, we might have 𝕄κ𝕄\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\neq\mathbb{M} for κ\kappa measurable.
If we go even lower in the large cardinal hierarchy then even less choice principles seem to be provable in the corresponding mantle. The relevant results here are due to Farmer Schlutzenberg.

Fact 1.11 (Schlutzenberg, [Sch22a]).

Suppose that κ\kappa is weakly compact. Then

  1. (i)(i)

    𝕄κκ-DC\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models\kappa\text{-}\mathrm{DC} and

  2. (ii)(ii)

    for every AHκ+𝕄κA\in H_{\kappa^{+}}\cap\mathbb{M}_{\kappa},

    𝕄κ``AHκ+ is wellorderable".\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models``A\in H_{\kappa^{+}}\text{ is wellorderable}".
Definition 1.12.

Suppose α\alpha is an ordinal and XX is a set. (<α,X)({<}\alpha,X)-choice holds if for any β<α\beta<\alpha and any sequence xxγγ<β\vec{x}\coloneqq\langle x_{\gamma}\mid\gamma<\beta\rangle of nonempty elements of XX there is a choice sequence for x\vec{x}, that is a sequenece yγγ<β\langle y_{\gamma}\mid\gamma<\beta\rangle with yγxγy_{\gamma}\in x_{\gamma} for all γ<β\gamma<\beta.

Fact 1.13 (Schlutzenberg, [Sch22a]).

Suppose κ\kappa is inaccessible. Then we have

  1. (i)(i)

    Vκ𝕄κZFCV_{\kappa}\cap\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models\mathrm{ZFC} and

  2. (ii)(ii)

    𝕄κ``(<κ,Hκ+)-choice"\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models``({<}\kappa,H_{\kappa^{+}})\text{-choice}".

Acknowledgments

The author thanks Ralf Schindler and Farmer Schlutzenberg for valuable discussions on the present topic. Moreover, the author thanks Ralf Schindler for his support and guidance during his work on this project.
Funded by the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft (DFG, German Research Foundation) under Germany’s Excellence Strategy EXC 2044 390685587, Mathematics Münster: Dynamics - Geometry - Structure.

2 Overview

In Section 3.1, we will argue that “κ\kappa is measurable” cannot be replaced by “κ\kappa is Mahlo” in Fact 1.10, as wells as that (<κ,Hκ+)({<}\kappa,H_{\kappa^{+}})-choice cannot be strengthened to (<κ+1,Hκ+)({<}\kappa+1,H_{\kappa^{+}})-choice in Fact 1.13.

Theorem 2.1.

If ZFC\mathrm{ZFC} is consistent with the existence of a Mahlo cardinal, then it is consistent with ZFC\mathrm{ZFC} that there is a Mahlo cardinal κ\kappa so that 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa} fails to satisfy the axiom of choice. In fact we may have

𝕄κ``(<κ+1,Hκ+)-choice fails".\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models``({<}\kappa+1,H_{\kappa^{+}})\text{-choice fails}".

In Section 3.2, we will investigate the κ\kappa-mantle for κ=ω1\kappa=\omega_{1}, as well as the Γ\Gamma-mantle where Γ={Cohen forcing}\Gamma=\{\text{Cohen forcing}\}, denoted by 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}. We will first proof that these mantles are always models of ZF\mathrm{ZF} and will go on to provide a result analogous to Theorem 2.1.

Theorem 2.2.

It is consistent relative to a Mahlo cardinal that both 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}} and 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}} fail to satisfy the axiom of choice.

In Section 3.3, we will generalize this to any successor of a regular cardinal.

Theorem 2.3.

Suppose that

  1. (i)(i)

    GCH\mathrm{GCH} holds,

  2. (ii)(ii)

    the Ground Axiom555The Ground Axiom states that there is no nontrivial ground. See [Rei06] for more information on this axiom. holds and

  3. (iii)(iii)

    κ\kappa is a regular uncountable cardinal.

Then there is a cardinal preserving generic extension in which the κ+\kappa^{+}-mantle fails to satisfy the axiom of choice.

In this case however, it is not known if the κ+\kappa^{+}-mantle is a model of ZF\mathrm{ZF} in general. The proof of all these three theorems follows a similar pattern, though the details differ from case to case and it seems that we cannot employ a fully unified approach.

3 The Axiom of Choice May Fail in 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}

3.1 The case “κ\kappa is Mahlo”

Here, we will construct a model where the κ\kappa-mantle for a Mahlo cardinal κ\kappa does not satisfy the axiom of choice. We will start with LL and assume that κ\kappa is the least Mahlo there. The final model will be a forcing extension of LL by

=λIκ<κ-supportAdd(λ,1)\mathbb{P}=\prod_{\lambda\in I\cap\kappa}^{\text{${<}\kappa$-support}}\mathrm{Add}(\lambda,1)

where II is the class of all inaccessible cardinals. We define \mathbb{P} to be a product forcing and not an iteration (in the usual sense), as we want to generate many κ\kappa-grounds. Let GG be \mathbb{P}-generic over LL. We will show that κ\kappa is still Mahlo in L[G]L[G] and that 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]} does not satisfy the axiom of choice. We remark that, would we start with a model in which κ\kappa is measurable, \mathbb{P} would provably force κ\kappa to not be measurable.
First, let’s fix notation. For λ<κ\lambda<\kappa, we may factor \mathbb{P} as λ×>λ\mathbb{P}_{\leq\lambda}\times\mathbb{P}_{>\lambda} where in each case we only take a product over all γIκ\gamma\in I\cap\kappa with γλ\gamma\leq\lambda and γ>λ\gamma>\lambda respectively. Observe that >λ\mathbb{P}_{>\lambda} is a <κ{<}\kappa-support product while λ\mathbb{P}_{\leq\lambda} is a full support product. We also factor GG as Gλ×G>λG_{\leq\lambda}\times G_{>\lambda} accordingly. For λIκ\lambda\in I\cap\kappa we denote the generic for Add(λ,1)L\mathrm{Add}(\lambda,1)^{L} induced by GG as gλg_{\lambda}. In addition to this, for ακ\alpha\leq\kappa we denote the α\alpha-th inaccessible cardinal by IαI_{\alpha}.
For α<κ\alpha<\kappa let Eα:κ2E_{\alpha}\colon\kappa\rightarrow 2 be the function induced by gIαg_{I_{\alpha}}. It will be convenient to think of GG as a κ×κ\kappa\times\kappa-matrix MM which arises by stacking the maps (Eα)α<κ(E_{\alpha})_{\alpha<\kappa} on top of each other, starting with EI0E_{I_{0}} and proceeding downwards, and then filling up with 0’s to produce rows of equal length κ\kappa. Let us write

eα,β={Eα(β)if β<Iα0else.e_{\alpha,\beta}=\begin{cases}E_{\alpha}(\beta)&\text{if }\beta<I_{\alpha}\\ 0&\text{else.}\\ \end{cases}

The (eα,β)α,β<κ(e_{\alpha,\beta})_{\alpha,\beta<\kappa} are the entries of MM:

e0,0{e_{0,0}}e0,1{e_{0,1}}e0,2{e_{0,2}}{\cdots}0{0}{\cdots}0{0}{\cdots}0{0}{\cdots}e1,0{e_{1,0}}e1,1{e_{1,1}}e1,2{e_{1,2}}{\cdots}e1,I0{e_{1,I_{0}}}{\cdots}0{0}{\cdots}0{0}{\cdots}{\vdots}{\vdots}{\vdots}{\ddots}{\vdots}{\ddots}0{0}{\cdots}0{0}{\cdots}eα,0{e_{\alpha,0}}eα,1{e_{\alpha,1}}eα,2{e_{\alpha,2}}{\cdots}eα,I0{e_{\alpha,I_{0}}}{\cdots}eα,I1{e_{\alpha,I_{1}}}{\cdots}0{0}{\cdots}{\vdots}{\vdots}{\vdots}{\ddots}{\vdots}{\vdots}{\vdots}{\ddots}0{0}{\cdots}(\left(\vbox{\hrule height=60.14885pt,depth=60.14885pt,width=0.0pt}\right.)\left.\vbox{\hrule height=60.14885pt,depth=60.14885pt,width=0.0pt}\right)r1r_{1}c2c_{2}MαM_{\geq\alpha}M=M=

We will give the α\alpha-th row of MM the name rαr_{\alpha} and we denote the β\beta-th column of MM by cβc_{\beta}. One trivial but key observation is that rαr_{\alpha} carries the same information as gIαg_{I_{\alpha}}.

We will be frequently interested in the matrix MM with its first α\alpha rows deleted for some α<κ\alpha<\kappa, so we will give this matrix the name MαM_{\geq\alpha}. Note that MαM_{\geq\alpha} corresponds to the generic GIαG_{\geq I_{\alpha}}. Finally observe that we may think of conditions in \mathbb{P} as partial matrices that approximate such a matrix MM in the sense that they already have the trivial 0’s in the upper right corner, in any row α<κ\alpha<\kappa they have information for <Iα{<}I_{\alpha} many β<Iα\beta<I_{\alpha} on whether eα,βe_{\alpha,\beta} is 0 or 11 and they contain non-trivial information in less than κ\kappa-many rows.

Lemma 3.1.

LL and L[G]L[G] have the same inaccessibles.

Proof.

First, we show that all limit cardinals of LL are limit cardinals in L[G]L[G]. It is enough to prove that all double successors δ++\delta^{++} are preserved. This is obvious for δκ\delta\geq\kappa as \mathbb{P} has size κ\kappa. For δ<κ\delta<\kappa, >δ\mathbb{P}_{>\delta} is δ++{\leq}\delta^{++}-closed so that all cardinals δ++\leq\delta^{++} are preserved in L[G>δ]L[G_{>\delta}]. Furthermore, <δ\mathbb{P}_{<\delta} has size at most δ+\delta^{+} in L[G>δ]L[G_{>\delta}] by GCH\mathrm{GCH} in LL. Hence δ++\delta^{++} is still a cardinal in L[G]L[G].
Now we have to argue that all λI\lambda\in I remain regular. Again, this is clear if λ>κ\lambda>\kappa. On the other hand, assume δcof(λ)L[G]<λ\delta\coloneqq\operatorname{cof}(\lambda)^{L[G]}<\lambda. As >δ\mathbb{P}_{>\delta} is δ{\leq}\delta-closed, λ\lambda is still regular in L[G>δ]L[G_{>\delta}]. Hence, a witness to cof(λ)=δ\operatorname{cof}(\lambda)=\delta must be added in the extension of L[G>δ]L[G_{{>}\delta}] by δ\mathbb{P}_{\leq\delta}. But this forcing has size <λ<\lambda in L[G>δ]L[G_{{>}\delta}] and thus could not have added such a sequence. ∎

In fact, \mathbb{P} does not collapse any cardinals (if V=LV=L), but some more work is required to prove this. This is, however, not important for our purposes. Next, we aim to show that κ\kappa remains Mahlo in L[G]L[G].

To prove this, it is convenient to introduce a generalization of Axiom A.

Definition 3.2.

For κ\kappa an ordinal, λ\lambda a cardinal we say that a forcing \mathbb{Q} satisfies Axiom A(κ,λ)(\kappa,\lambda), abbreviated by AA(κ,λ)\mathrm{AA}(\kappa,\lambda), if there is a sequence αα<κ\langle\leq_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\kappa\rangle of partial orders on \mathbb{Q} so that

  1. (AA.i)(\mathrm{AA}.i)

    αβ<κβα\forall\alpha\leq\beta<\kappa\ \leq_{\beta}\subseteq\leq_{\alpha}\subseteq\leq_{\mathbb{Q}},

  2. (AA.ii)(\mathrm{AA}.ii)

    for all antichains AA in \mathbb{Q}, α<κ\alpha<\kappa and pp\in\mathbb{Q} there is qαpq\leq_{\alpha}p so that |{aAaq}|<λ|\{a\in A\mid a\|q\}|<\lambda and

  3. (AA.iii)(\mathrm{AA}.iii)

    for all β<κ\beta<\kappa if p=pαα<β\vec{p}=\langle p_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\beta\rangle satisfies pγαpαp_{\gamma}\leq_{\alpha}p_{\alpha} for all α<γ<β\alpha<\gamma<\beta then there is a fusion pβp_{\beta} of p\vec{p}, that is pβαpαp_{\beta}\leq_{\alpha}p_{\alpha} for all α<β\alpha<\beta.

Remark 3.3.

The usual Axiom A is thus Axiom A(ω+1,ω1)(\omega+1,\omega_{1}).

Proposition 3.4.

Suppose λ\lambda is regular uncountable cardinal and \mathbb{Q} satisfies AA(λ,λ)\mathrm{AA}(\lambda,\lambda). Then \mathbb{Q} preserves stationary subsets of λ\lambda.

Proof.

Suppose SλS\subseteq\lambda is stationary, C˙\dot{C} is a \mathbb{Q}-name for a club in λ\lambda and pp\in\mathbb{P}. We will imitate the standard proof that a <κ{<}\kappa-closed forcing preserves stationary sets. Let αα<λ\langle\leq_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\lambda\rangle witness that \mathbb{Q} satisfies AA(λ,λ)\mathrm{AA}(\lambda,\lambda).

Claim 3.5.

For any q,α<λq\in\mathbb{Q},\alpha<\lambda there is rαqr\leq_{\alpha}q and some α<γ<λ\alpha<\gamma<\lambda with qγˇC˙q\Vdash\check{\gamma}\in\dot{C}.

Proof.

Construct a sequence qαα<ω\langle q_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\omega\rangle of conditions in \mathbb{Q} and an ascending sequence γnn<ω\langle\gamma_{n}\mid n<\omega\rangle of ordinals with

  1. (i)(i)

    q0=qq_{0}=q, γ0=α\gamma_{0}=\alpha,

  2. (ii)(ii)

    qn+1α+nqnq_{n+1}\leq_{\alpha+n}q_{n} for all n<ωn<\omega and

  3. (iii)(iii)

    qn+1``C˙(γˇn,γˇn+1)q_{n+1}\Vdash``\dot{C}\cap(\check{\gamma}_{n},\check{\gamma}_{n+1})\neq\emptyset

for all n<ωn<\omega. The construction is immediate using that λ\lambda is regular uncountable and (AA.iii)(\mathrm{AA}.iii). Then by (AA.ii)(\mathrm{AA}.ii), there is qαqq_{\ast}\leq_{\alpha}q which is below all qnq_{n}, n<ωn<\omega. It follows that

qγˇC˙q_{\ast}\Vdash\check{\gamma}_{\ast}\in\dot{C}

where γ=supn<ωγn\gamma_{\ast}=\sup_{n<\omega}\gamma_{n}. ∎

Suppose toward a contradiction that pC˙Sˇ=p\Vdash\dot{C}\cap\check{S}=\emptyset. By the claim above, we can build sequences pαα<λ\langle p_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\lambda\rangle of conditions in \mathbb{Q} and an increasing sequence γαα<λ\langle\gamma_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\lambda\rangle of ordinals below λ\lambda so that

  1. (i)(i)

    p0=pp_{0}=p,

  2. (ii)(ii)

    pβαpαp_{\beta}\leq_{\alpha}p_{\alpha} for all αβ<λ\alpha\leq\beta<\lambda and

  3. (iii)(iii)

    pα+1γˇαC˙p_{\alpha+1}\Vdash\check{\gamma}_{\alpha}\in\dot{C} for all α<λ\alpha<\lambda.

Let DD be the set of all limit points <λ{<}\lambda of {γαα<λ}\{\gamma_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\lambda\}. For any α<λ\alpha<\lambda, we have

pα+1DˇγαC˙p_{\alpha+1}\Vdash\check{D}\cap\gamma_{\alpha}\subseteq\dot{C}

which shows that DS=D\cap S=\emptyset, contradiction. ∎

Lemma 3.6.

\mathbb{P} satisfies AA(κ,κ)\mathrm{AA}(\kappa,\kappa).

Proof.

For γ<κ\gamma<\kappa define γ\leq_{\gamma} by rγqr\leq_{\gamma}q if rqr\leq q and rγ=qγr\upharpoonright\gamma=q\upharpoonright\gamma for q,rq,r\in\mathbb{P}. We will only show that (AA.ii)(\mathrm{AA}.ii) holds. So let pp\in\mathbb{P}, γ<κ\gamma<\kappa and AA\subseteq\mathbb{P} a maximal antichain. Let qα|α<δ\langle q_{\alpha}|\alpha<\delta\rangle be an enumeration of all conditions in gamma\mathbb{P}_{\leq gamma} below pγ+1p\upharpoonright\gamma+1 with δ=|γ|\delta=|\mathbb{P}_{\leq\gamma}|. We construct a γ\leq_{\gamma}-descending sequence pα|αδ\langle p_{\alpha}|\alpha\leq\delta\rangle of conditions in \mathbb{P} starting with p0=pp_{0}=p as follows: If αδ\alpha\leq\delta then choose some γ\leq_{\gamma}-bound of pββ<α\langle p_{\beta}\mid\beta<\alpha\rangle. This is possible as >γ\mathbb{P}_{>\gamma} is δ{\leq}\delta-closed, as the next forcing only appears at the next inaccessible. Moreover, if possible and α<δ\alpha<\delta make sure that

qαpα(γ,κ)q_{\alpha}^{\frown}p_{\alpha}\upharpoonright(\gamma,\kappa)

is below a condition in AA. This completes the construction. Set qqκq\coloneqq q_{\kappa}, we will show that qq is compatible with at most δ\delta-many elements of AA. Toward this goal, suppose aAa\in A and qq is compatible with aa. We may find some α<κ\alpha<\kappa so that aγ+1=qαa\upharpoonright\gamma+1=q_{\alpha}. It follows that we must have succeeded in the construction of pαp_{\alpha} with the additional demand that

qαpα(γ,κ)q_{\alpha}^{\frown}p_{\alpha}\upharpoonright(\gamma,\kappa)

is below a condition in AA, but this can only be true for aa. We have shown that for any aAa\in A compatible with qq there is α<δ\alpha<\delta with qαq(γ,κ)aq_{\alpha}^{\frown}q\upharpoonright(\gamma,\kappa)\leq a and note that no single α\alpha can witness this for more than one element of AA. ∎

Corollary 3.7.

κ\kappa is Mahlo in L[G]L[G].

Proof.

This follows immediately from Lemma 3.1, Lemma 3.6 and Proposition 3.4. ∎

Next, we aim to find an easier description of 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}. Recall the λ\lambda-approximation property introduced by Hamkins [Ham03]:

Definition 3.8.

Let WVW\subseteq V be an inner model, λ\lambda an infinite cardinal.

  1. (i)(i)

    For xVx\in V, a λ\lambda-approximation of xx by WW is of the form xyx\cap y where yWy\in W is of size λ{\leq}\lambda.

  2. (ii)(ii)

    WVW\subseteq V satisfies the λ\lambda-approximation property if whenever xVx\in V and all λ\lambda-approximations of xx by WW are in WW, then xWx\in W.

All κ\kappa-grounds satisfy the κ\kappa-approximation property (cf. [FHR15]).

Lemma 3.9.

𝕄κL[G]=λIκL[G>λ]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}=\bigcap_{\lambda\in I\cap\kappa}L[G_{>\lambda}].

Proof.

Suppose WW is a κ\kappa-ground of L[G]L[G]. It is enough to find λIκ\lambda\in I\cap\kappa such that L[G>λ]WL[G_{>\lambda}]\subseteq W. Clearly, LW\mathbb{P}\in L\subseteq W. As κ\kappa is a limit of inaccessibles, we may take some λ<κ\lambda<\kappa inaccessible so that WW is a λ\lambda-ground. Thus WL[G]W\subseteq L[G] satisfies the λ\lambda-approximation property. We will show G>λWG_{>\lambda}\in W (even GλWG_{\geq\lambda}\in W). Find α\alpha with λ=Iα\lambda=I_{\alpha}, it is thus enough to show MαWM_{\geq\alpha}\in W. To any λ\lambda-approximation MαaM_{\geq\alpha}\cap a of MαM_{\geq\alpha} by WW corresponds some aκα×κa^{\prime}\subseteq\kappa\setminus\alpha\times\kappa, aWa^{\prime}\in W of size <λ{<}\lambda so that

Mαa=Mαaeγ,β(γ,β)a.M_{\geq\alpha}\cap a=M_{\geq\alpha}\upharpoonright a^{\prime}\coloneqq\langle e_{\gamma,\beta}\mid(\gamma,\beta)\in a^{\prime}\rangle.

We will show that all such restrictions of MαM_{\geq\alpha} are in WW. So let aWa\in W, aκα×κa\subseteq\kappa\setminus\alpha\times\kappa, |a|<λ|a|<\lambda. As 0#0^{\#} does not exist in WW, there is bLb\in L, bκα×κb\subseteq\kappa\setminus\alpha\times\kappa of size <λ<\lambda with aba\subseteq b. For all αγ<κ\alpha\leq\gamma<\kappa, the set of β<Iγ\beta<I_{\gamma} with (γ,β)b(\gamma,\beta)\in b is bounded in IγI_{\gamma}. As described earlier, we may think of conditions in \mathbb{P} as partial κ×κ\kappa\times\kappa matrices. With this in mind, the conditions pp\in\mathbb{P} that contain information on the entry eγ,βe_{\gamma,\beta} for all (γ,β)b(\gamma,\beta)\in b form a dense set of \mathbb{P}. Thus Mb=eγ,β(γ,β)bM\upharpoonright b=\langle e_{\gamma,\beta}\mid(\gamma,\beta)\in b\rangle is essentially a condition pWp\in\mathbb{P}\subseteq W and hence Ma=(Mb)aWM\upharpoonright a=(M\upharpoonright b)\upharpoonright a\in W. As WL[G]W\subseteq L[G] satisfies the λ\lambda-approximation property, we have MαWM_{\geq\alpha}\in W.

Remark 3.10.

The above argument shows that for any λIκ\lambda\in I\cap\kappa

𝕄κL[G>λ]=𝕄κL[G].\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G_{>\lambda}]}=\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}.

In fact, whenever δ\delta is a strong limit, the δ\delta-mantle is always absolute to any δ\delta-ground. The use of Jensen’s covering lemma in the above argument is not essential, in fact a model in which the κ\kappa-mantle does not satisfy choice for κ\kappa Mahlo can be analogously constructed in the presence of 00^{\sharp}. However, the absence of 00^{\sharp} simplifies the proof.

We will later show that 𝒫(κ)𝕄κL[G]\mathcal{P}(\kappa)^{\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}} does not admit a wellorder in 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}. First, we analyze which subsets of κ\kappa 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]} knows of. We call aκa\subseteq\kappa fresh if aλLa\cap\lambda\in L for all λ<κ\lambda<\kappa.

Proposition 3.11.

The subsets of κ\kappa in 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]} are exactly the fresh subsets of κ\kappa in L[G]L[G].

Proof.

First suppose aκa\subseteq\kappa, a𝕄κL[G]a\in\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}. If λ<κ\lambda<\kappa then aL[G>λ]a\in L[G_{>\lambda}]. As >λ\mathbb{P}_{>\lambda} is λ{\leq}\lambda-closed in LL, aλLa\cap\lambda\in L.
For the other direction assume aL[G]a\in L[G] is a fresh subset of κ\kappa and assume WW is a κ\kappa-ground of L[G]L[G]. There is λ<κ\lambda<\kappa so that WL[G]W\subseteq L[G] satisfies the λ\lambda-approximation property. As aa is fresh, all the λ\lambda-approximations of aa in WW are in WW. Thus aWa\in W. ∎

The columns cβc_{\beta}, β<κ\beta<\kappa, of MM are the fresh subsets of κ\kappa relevant to our argument.

Proposition 3.12.

All cβc_{\beta}, β<κ\beta<\kappa, are Add(κ,1)\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1)-generic over LL.

Proof.

The map π:Add(κ,1)\pi\colon\mathbb{P}\rightarrow\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1) that maps pp\in\mathbb{P} to the information that pp has on cβc_{\beta} is well-defined as \mathbb{P} is a bounded support iteration of length κ\kappa. Clearly, π\pi is a projection. ∎

This is exactly the reason we chose bounded support in the definition of \mathbb{P}.

We are now in good shape to complete the argument.

Theorem 3.13.

(<κ+1,Hκ+)({<}\kappa+1,H_{\kappa^{+}})-choice fails in 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}.

Proof.

Note that any generic for Add(κ,1)L\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1)^{L} is the characteristic function of a fresh subset of κ\kappa so that cβ𝕄κL[G]c_{\beta}\in\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]} for any β<κ\beta<\kappa. Of course, the sequence cβ|β<κ\langle c_{\beta}|\beta<\kappa\rangle is not in 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}, as one can compute the whole matrix MM (and thus the whole generic GG) from this sequence. However, we can make this sequence fuzzy to result in an element of 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}. Let \sim be the equivalence relation of eventual coincidence on (2κ)𝕄κL[G]({}^{\kappa}2)^{\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}}, i.e.

xyδ<κx[δ,κ)=y[δ,κ).x\sim y\Leftrightarrow\exists\delta<\kappa\ x\upharpoonright[\delta,\kappa)=y\upharpoonright[\delta,\kappa).

We call [cβ]|β<κ\langle[c_{\beta}]_{\sim}|\beta<\kappa\rangle the fuzzy sequence.

Claim 3.14.

The fuzzy sequence is an element of 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}.

Proof.

By Lemma 3.9, it is enough to show that for every α<κ\alpha<\kappa, L[GIα]L[G_{\geq I_{\alpha}}] knows of this sequence. But L[G>Iα]L[G_{>I_{\alpha}}] contains the matrix MαM_{\geq\alpha} and thus the sequence

cβ(κα)|β<κ\langle c_{\beta}\upharpoonright(\kappa\setminus\alpha)|\beta<\kappa\rangle

so that L[Gα]L[G_{\geq\alpha}] can compute the relevant sequence of equivalence classes from this parameter. ∎

Finally, we argue that 𝕄κL[G]\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]} does not contain a choice sequence for the fuzzy sequence666That is, there is no sequence xββ<κ𝕄κL[G]\langle x_{\beta}\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle\in\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]} with xβ[cβ]x_{\beta}\in[c_{\beta}]_{\sim} for all β<κ\beta<\kappa.. Heading toward a contradiction, let us assume that

xβ|β<κ𝕄κL[G]\langle x_{\beta}|\beta<\kappa\rangle\in\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}

is such a sequence. L[G]L[G] knows about the sequence

δβ|β<κ\langle\delta_{\beta}|\beta<\kappa\rangle

where δβ\delta_{\beta} is the least δ\delta with xβ(κδ)=cβ(κδ)x_{\beta}\upharpoonright(\kappa\setminus\delta)=c_{\beta}\upharpoonright(\kappa\setminus\delta). The set of λ<κ\lambda<\kappa that are closed under the map βδβ\beta\longmapsto\delta_{\beta} is club in κ\kappa. As κ\kappa is Mahlo in L[G]L[G], there is an inaccessible α=Iα<κ\alpha=I_{\alpha}<\kappa that is closed under βδβ\beta\longmapsto\delta_{\beta}. Now observe that

xβ(α)=1cβ(α)=1rα(β)=1x_{\beta}(\alpha)=1\Leftrightarrow c_{\beta}(\alpha)=1\Leftrightarrow r_{\alpha}(\beta)=1

holds for all β<Iα\beta<I_{\alpha}, so that rα𝕄κL[G]r_{\alpha}\in\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}^{L[G]}. But this is impossible as clearly rαr_{\alpha} is not fresh.

Theorem 2.1 follows.

Remark 3.15.

The only critical property of LL that we need to make sure that 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa} is not a model of choice in L[G]L[G] is that LL has no nontrivial grounds, i.e. LL satisfies the ground axiom. GCH\mathrm{GCH} is convenient and implies that no cardinals are collapsed, but it is not necessary. The use of Jensen’s covering lemma can also be avoided, as discussed earlier.

3.2 The ω1\omega_{1}-mantle

Up to now, we have focused on the κ\kappa-mantle for strong limit κ\kappa. We will get similar results for the ω1\omega_{1}-mantle. There is some ambiguity in the definition of the ω1\omega_{1}-mantle, depending on whether or not ω1\omega_{1} is considered as a parameter or as a definition. In the former case, it is the intersections of all grounds WW so that WW extends to VV via a forcing so that W||<ω1VW\models|\mathbb{P}|<\omega_{1}^{V}, where in the latter case we would require W||<ω1WW\models|\mathbb{P}|<\omega_{1}^{W}. These mantles are in general not equal. To make the distinction clear, we give the latter version the name “Cohen mantle” and denote it by 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}. The reason for the name is, of course, that all non-trivial countable forcings are forcing-equivalent to Cohen forcing.

Lemma 3.16.

𝕄ω1ZF\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}\models\mathrm{ZF} and 𝕄𝖢ZF\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}\models\mathrm{ZF}.

Proof.

First let us do it for 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}. Clearly, 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}} is closed under the Gödel operations. It is thus enough to show that 𝕄𝖢Vα𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}\cap V_{\alpha}\in\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}} for all αOrd\alpha\in\mathrm{Ord}. Let WW be any Cohen-ground. As Cohen-forcing is homogeneous, 𝕄𝖢V\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}^{V} is a definable class in WW. Hence, 𝕄𝖢Vα=𝕄𝖢VαWW\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}\cap V_{\alpha}=\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}\cap V_{\alpha}^{W}\in W. As WW was arbitrary, this proves the claim.

Now onto 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}. The above argument shows that all we need to do is show that 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}} is a definable class in all associated grounds. So let WW be such a ground. There are two cases. First, assume that ω1W=ω1V\omega_{1}^{W}=\omega_{1}^{V}. Then WW extends to VV via Cohen forcing, so 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}} is definable in WW. Next, suppose that ω1W<ω1V\omega_{1}^{W}<\omega_{1}^{V}. This can only happen if ω1V\omega_{1}^{V} is a successor cardinal in WW, say Wω1V=μ+W\models\omega_{1}^{V}=\mu^{+}. In this case, WW extends to VV via a forcing of WW-size μ\leq\mu and which collapses μ\mu to be countable. It is well known that in this situation, WW extends to VV via Col(ω,μ)\mathrm{Col}(\omega,\mu), which is homogeneous as well, so once again, 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}} is a definable class in WW. ∎

Once again, choice can fail.

Theorem 3.17.

Relative to the existence of a Mahlo cardinal, it is consistent that there is no wellorder of 𝒫(ω1V)𝕄ω1\mathcal{P}(\omega_{1}^{V})^{\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}} in 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}.

We remark that the Mahlo cardinal is used in a totally different way than in the last section. In the model we will construct, ω1\omega_{1} will be inaccessible in 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}. Let us once again assume V=LV=L for the rest of the section and let κ\kappa be Mahlo. Let \mathbb{P} be the “<κ{<}\kappa-support version of Col(ω,<κ)\mathrm{Col}(\omega,{<}\kappa)”, that is

=α<κ<κsupportCol(ω,α).\mathbb{P}=\prod_{\alpha<\kappa}^{<\kappa-\text{support}}\mathrm{Col}(\omega,\alpha).

Let us pick a \mathbb{P}-generic filter GG over VV. From now on, 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}} will denote 𝕄ω1V[G]\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}^{V[G]} and 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}} will denote 𝕄𝖢V[G]\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}^{V[G]}.

Proposition 3.18.

Suppose \mathbb{Q} is a forcing, γ<λ\gamma<\lambda and λ\lambda is a cardinal. If \mathbb{Q} is AA(γ,λ)\mathrm{AA}(\gamma,\lambda) then in VV^{\mathbb{Q}} there is no surjection from any β<γ\beta<\gamma onto λ\lambda.

Proof.

This is a straightforward adaptation of the proof that Axiom A forcings preserve ω1\omega_{1}. ∎

The following lemma is the only significant use of the Mahloness of κ\kappa.

Lemma 3.19.

\mathbb{P} satisfies AA(κ,κ)\mathrm{AA}(\kappa,\kappa).

Proof.

We define α\leq_{\alpha} independent of α<κ\alpha<\kappa as the order \leq^{\ast}: Let pqp\leq^{\ast}q iff pqp\leq q and psupp(q)=qp\upharpoonright\mathrm{supp}(q)=q. The only nontrivial part is showing that for any antichain AA and any pp\in\mathbb{P} there is qpq\leq^{\ast}p with

|{aAaq}|<κ.|\{a\in A\mid a\|q\}|<\kappa.

Let

α{psupsupp(p)<α}\mathbb{P}\upharpoonright\alpha\coloneqq\{p\in\mathbb{P}\mid\sup\mathrm{supp}(p)<\alpha\}

for all α<κ\alpha<\kappa. We will proceed to find some qq with the desired property. For convenience, we may assume that AA is a maximal antichain. As κ\kappa is Mahlo, there is a regular λ<κ\lambda<\kappa so that pλp\mathbb{P}\upharpoonright\lambda and any rλr\in\mathbb{P}\upharpoonright\lambda is compatible with some aAλa\in A\cap\mathbb{P}\upharpoonright{\lambda}. As V=LV=L, λ\diamondsuit_{\lambda} holds. Thus there is a sequence ddαα<λ\vec{d}\coloneqq\langle d_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\lambda\rangle with

  1. (d.i)(\vec{d}.i)

    dααd_{\alpha}\in\mathbb{P}_{\leq\alpha} and

  2. (d.ii)(\vec{d}.ii)

    for all rλr\in\mathbb{P}_{\leq\lambda} there are stationarily many α<λ\alpha<\lambda with dα=rαd_{\alpha}=r\upharpoonright\alpha.

Construct a sequence

qαα<λ\langle q_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\lambda\rangle

of conditions in λ\mathbb{P}\upharpoonright\lambda with qαqβq_{\alpha}\leq^{\ast}q_{\beta} for all α<β<λ\alpha<\beta<\lambda as follows: Set q0=pq_{0}=p. If qβq_{\beta} is defined for all β<α\beta<\alpha, let first qα=β<αqβq^{\prime}_{\alpha}=\bigcup_{\beta<\alpha}q_{\beta} and note that this is a condition. Let γα=supsupp(qα)\gamma_{\alpha}=\sup\mathrm{supp}(q_{\alpha}^{\prime}). Now find aAλa\in A\cap\mathbb{P}\upharpoonright\lambda that is compatible with dγαd_{\gamma_{\alpha}} and let

qαqαa[γα,λ).q_{\alpha}\coloneqq q_{\alpha}^{\prime\frown}a\upharpoonright[\gamma_{\alpha},\lambda).

Finally, set q=α<λqαq=\bigcup_{\alpha<\lambda}q_{\alpha}. We have to show that qq is compatible with only a few elements of AA, so suppose bAb\in A is compatible with qq. The properties of d\vec{d} guarantee that there is α<λ\alpha<\lambda so that

  1. (α.i)(\alpha.i)

    γα=α\gamma_{\alpha}=\alpha and

  2. (α.ii)(\alpha.ii)

    dα=bαd_{\alpha}=b\upharpoonright\alpha.

Hence in the construction of qα+1q_{\alpha+1} we found some aAλa\in A\cap\mathbb{P}\upharpoonright\lambda compatible with bαb\upharpoonright\alpha and have qα+1[α,λ)a[α,λ)q_{\alpha+1}\upharpoonright[\alpha,\lambda)\leq a\upharpoonright[\alpha,\lambda). If aba\neq b, then aba\perp b and the incompatibility must lie in the interval [α,λ)[\alpha,\lambda). But then qα+1q_{\alpha+1} and bb are incompatible as well, contradiction. Thus b=ab=a and it follows that qq is compatible with at most λ\lambda-many elements of AA. ∎

Corollary 3.20.

We have

  1. (G.i)(G.i)

    ω1L[G]=κ\omega_{1}^{L[G]}=\kappa and

  2. (G.ii)(G.ii)

    if g:ωOrdL[G]g\colon\omega\rightarrow\mathrm{Ord}\in L[G] then there is some α<κ\alpha<\kappa so that gV[Gα]g\in V[G_{\leq\alpha}].

Proof.

To see (G.i)(G.i), note that \mathbb{P} collapses all cardinals <κ{<}\kappa to ω\omega, so ω1L[G]κ\omega_{1}^{L[G]}\geq\kappa. As \mathbb{P} satisfies AA(κ,κ)\mathrm{AA}(\kappa,\kappa), there is no surjection from ω\omega onto κ\kappa in L[G]L[G].
Next, let us prove (G.ii)(G.ii). Let g˙L\dot{g}\in L be a name for gg. In L[G]L[G], find a decreasing sequence of conditions pnn<ω\langle p_{n}\mid n<\omega\rangle in GG so that pnp_{n} decides the value of g˙(nˇ)\dot{g}(\check{n}) (from the perspective of LL). Let α=supn<ωsupsupp(pn)\alpha=\sup_{n<\omega}\sup\mathrm{supp}(p_{n}). By (G.i)(G.i), α<κ\alpha<\kappa. But then L[Gα]L[G_{\leq\alpha}] can compute the whole of gg. ∎

From now on, 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}} denotes 𝕄ω1L[G]\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}^{L[G]} and 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}} is 𝕄𝖢L[G]\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}^{L[G]}. Let us define an auxiliary model N=α<κL[G>α]N=\bigcap_{\alpha<\kappa}L[G_{>\alpha}]. It is clear that 𝕄ω1N\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}\subseteq N.

Recall the following fact due to Solovay.

Fact 3.21 (Solovay, [Sol70]).

If G,HG,H are mutually generic filters over VV (for any forcings) then V[G]V[H]=VV[G]\cap V[H]=V.

Proposition 3.22.

We have that

  1. (N.i)(N.i)

    NZFN\models\mathrm{ZF} and

  2. (N.ii)(N.ii)

    N𝒫(κ)=𝕄ω1𝒫(κ)=𝕄𝖢𝒫(κ)={aκβ<κaβV}N\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa)=\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa)=\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa)=\{a\subseteq\kappa\mid\forall\beta<\kappa\ a\cap\beta\in V\}.

Proof.

First, we will prove (N.i)(N.i). Once again it is enough to show that NN is definable in all models of the form L[G>α]L[G_{>\alpha}] for α<κ\alpha<\kappa. But this is clear from the definition of NN.
Next, we show (N.ii)(N.ii). 𝕄ω1𝒫(κ)𝕄𝖢𝒫(κ)N𝒫(κ)\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\subseteq\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\subseteq N\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa) is trivial. If aN𝒫(κ)a\in N\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa) and β<κ\beta<\kappa then aβL[Gα]a\cap\beta\in L[G_{\leq\alpha}] for some α\alpha by clause (G.ii)(G.ii) of Corollary 3.20. As aNa\in N, aβL[G>α]a\cap\beta\in L[G_{>\alpha}], too. Thus by Fact 3.21

aL[Gα]L[G>α]=L.a\in L[G_{\leq\alpha}]\cap L[G_{>\alpha}]=L.

The final inclusion N𝒫(κ)𝕄ω1𝒫(κ)N\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa)\subseteq\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}\cap\mathcal{P}(\kappa) holds since if WW is a ground of L[G]L[G] which extends to L[G]L[G] via \mathbb{Q} of size <κ<\kappa then \mathbb{Q} cannot add a fresh subset of κ\kappa. ∎

Proof of Theorem 3.17..

We will show that in L[G]L[G], neither 𝕄ω1\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}} nor 𝕄𝖢\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}} possess a wellorder of its version of 𝒫(κ)\mathcal{P}(\kappa). In fact, we will show that NN does not have such a wellorder, which is enough by (N.ii)(N.ii) of the above proposition. Once again, let \sim be the equivalence relation on functions f:κκNf\colon\kappa\rightarrow\kappa\in N of eventual coincidence. For n<ωn<\omega, let

dn:κκ,dn(α)=gα(n)d_{n}\colon\kappa\rightarrow\kappa,\ d_{n}(\alpha)=g_{\alpha}(n)

where gαg_{\alpha} is the map ωα\omega\rightarrow\alpha induced by the slice of GG generic for Col(ω,α)\mathrm{Col}(\omega,\alpha). As before, we get that the fuzzy sequence [dn]n<ωN\langle[d_{n}]_{\sim}\mid n<\omega\rangle\in N. If NN had a wellorder of 𝒫(κ)\mathcal{P}(\kappa), then there would be a choice sequence xnn<ωN\langle x_{n}\mid n<\omega\rangle\in N for the fuzzy sequence. In L[G]L[G], one can define the sequence δnn<ω\langle\delta_{n}\mid n<\omega\rangle where δn\delta_{n} is the least point after which xnx_{n} and dnd_{n} coincide. As κ=ω1\kappa=\omega_{1} in L[G]L[G], the δn\delta_{n} are bounded uniformly by some δ<κ\delta<\kappa. But this means that G>δNG_{>\delta}\in N, a contradiction. ∎

It is natural to conjecture that N=𝕄𝖢=𝕄ω1N=\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}=\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}, though we do not have a proof of any of these equalities. The problem is that we cannot follow the strategy from Section 3.1: L[G]L[G] has Cohen-grounds which do not contain any gαg_{\alpha} for α<κ\alpha<\kappa, let alone a tail of the sequence (gα)α<κ(g_{\alpha})_{\alpha<\kappa}.

Question 3.23.

Is N=𝕄𝖢=𝕄ω1N=\mathbb{M}_{\mathsf{C}}=\mathbb{M}_{\omega_{1}}?

3.3 The successor of a regular uncountable cardinal case

We show that, again under V=LV=L, for every regular uncountable κ\kappa there is a forcing extension in which 𝕄κ+\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}} is not a model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}. The upside here is that we do not need any large cardinals at all in our construction, however we pay a price: We do not know whether 𝕄κ+\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}} is a model of ZF\mathrm{ZF} in general.

Theorem 3.24.

Assume V=LV=L and suppose κ\kappa is regular uncountable. Then after forcing with

α<κ+<κ+supportAdd(κ,1)\mathbb{P}\coloneqq\prod_{\alpha<\kappa^{+}}^{<\kappa^{+}-\text{support}}\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1)

𝕄κ+\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}} is not a model of ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}.

First, lets do a warm-up with an initial segment of \mathbb{P}. We thank Elliot Glazer for explaining (the nontrivial part of) the following argument to the author.

Lemma 3.25 (Elliot Glazer).

If κ\kappa is regular and κ\diamondsuit_{\kappa} holds then

κ=α<κfull supportAdd(κ,1)\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa}=\prod_{\alpha<\kappa}^{\text{full support}}\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1)

satisfies AA(κ+1,κ+)\mathrm{AA}(\kappa+1,\kappa^{+}).

An additional assumption beyond “κ\kappa is regular” is necessary here: It is well known that

n<ωfull supportAdd(ω,1)\prod_{n<\omega}^{\text{full support}}\mathrm{Add}(\omega,1)

collapses 2ω2^{\omega} to ω\omega.

Proof.

We let pαqp\leq_{\alpha}q if pqp\leq q and pα=qαp\upharpoonright\alpha=q\upharpoonright\alpha. It is easy to see that (AA.i)(\mathrm{AA}.i) and (AA.iii)(\mathrm{AA}.iii) of Definition 3.2 hold, so let us show (AA.ii)(\mathrm{AA}.ii). Therefore, let α<κ\alpha<\kappa, pκp\in\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa} and an antichain AA in κ\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa} be given. As κ\diamondsuit_{\kappa} holds, there is a sequence dββ<κ\langle d_{\beta}\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle with dββd_{\beta}\in\mathbb{P}_{\leq\beta} so that for any qκq\in\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa} there is some β\beta with qβ=dβq\upharpoonright\beta=d_{\beta}. We will define a sequence (pβ)αβκ(p_{\beta})_{\alpha\leq\beta\leq\kappa} inductively so that pγβpβp_{\gamma}\leq_{\beta}p_{\beta} for all βγκ\beta\leq\gamma\leq\kappa. We put pα=pp_{\alpha}=p. At limit stages β\beta we let pβp_{\beta} be the canonical fusion of pγαγ<β\langle p_{\gamma}\mid\alpha\leq\gamma<\beta\rangle. So assume pβp_{\beta} is defined. We choose pβ+1βpβp_{\beta+1}\leq_{\beta}p_{\beta} so that, if possible,

dβpβ+1ad_{\beta}^{\frown}p_{\beta+1}\leq a

for some aAa\in A. Otherwise, we are lazy and set pβ+1=pβp_{\beta+1}=p_{\beta}.
Now clearly qpκαpq\coloneqq p_{\kappa}\leq_{\alpha}p and we will show that qq is compatible with at most κ\kappa-many conditions in AA. To see this, suppose aAa\in A is compatible with qq. We may find β<κ\beta<\kappa so that dβ=aβd_{\beta}=a\upharpoonright\beta. In the construction of pβ+1p_{\beta+1} from pβp_{\beta}, we tried to achieve that

dβpβ+1[β,κ)d_{\beta}^{\frown}p_{\beta+1}\upharpoonright[\beta,\kappa)

is below some condition in AA, which is possible and only possible for aa. This shows that for any aAa\in A that is compatible with qq, there is β<κ\beta<\kappa so that q[β,κ)a[β,κ)q\upharpoonright[\beta,\kappa)\leq a\upharpoonright[\beta,\kappa). As β\mathbb{P}_{\leq\beta} has size κ{\leq}\kappa, it follows that there are at most κ\kappa-many such aAa\in A. ∎

Corollary 3.26.

Under the same assumptions as before, κ\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa} preserves all cardinals κ+\leq\kappa^{+}.

Proof.

κ\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa} is <κ{<}\kappa-closed and satisfies AA(κ+1,κ+)\mathrm{AA}(\kappa+1,\kappa^{+}). ∎

We aim to prove a similar result for \mathbb{P}.

Lemma 3.27.

If κ\kappa is regular and κ\diamondsuit_{\kappa} holds then \mathbb{P} preserves all cardinals κ+\leq\kappa^{+}. Moreover, if GG is \mathbb{P}-generic and g:κOrdg\colon\kappa\rightarrow\mathrm{Ord} is in V[G]V[G] then there is α<κ+\alpha<\kappa^{+} with gV[Gα]g\in V[G_{\leq\alpha}].

The argument is similar, but somewhat more complicated. To do so, we introduce a further abstraction of AA(κ,λ)\mathrm{AA}(\kappa,\lambda).

Definition 3.28.

Suppose that 𝒫=(P,)\mathcal{P}=(P,\preceq) is a partial order, \mathbb{Q} is a forcing, κ<λ\kappa<\lambda are ordinals. \mathbb{Q} satisfies Strategic Axiom A(κ,λ,𝒫)(\kappa,\lambda,\mathcal{P}) (SAA(κ,λ,𝒫)\mathrm{SAA}(\kappa,\lambda,\mathcal{P})) if there is a family xxP\langle\leq_{x}\mid x\in P\rangle of partial orders on \mathbb{Q} so that

  1. (SAA.i)(\mathrm{SAA}.i)

    yx\leq_{y}\subseteq\leq_{x}\subseteq\leq_{\mathbb{Q}} whenever xyx\preceq y for x,yPx,y\in P,

  2. (SAA.ii)(\mathrm{SAA}.ii)

    for any antichain AA\subseteq\mathbb{Q}, any xPx\in P and pp\in\mathbb{Q}, there is qxpq\leq_{x}p with

    |{aAap}|<λ|\{a\in A\mid a\|p\}|<\lambda

    and

  3. (SAA.iii)(\mathrm{SAA}.iii)

    player II has a winning strategy in the following game we call 𝒢(,κ,𝒫)\mathcal{G}(\mathbb{Q},\kappa,\mathcal{P}):

    I p0p_{0} p1p_{1} \dots pωp_{\omega} \dots
    II x0x_{0} x1x_{1} \dots xωx_{\omega} \dots

    The game has length κ\kappa. In an even round α2\alpha\cdot 2, Player I plays some condition pαp_{\alpha}\in\mathbb{Q} so that pαxβpβp_{\alpha}\leq_{x_{\beta}}p_{\beta} for all β<α\beta<\alpha played so far. In an odd round α2+1\alpha\cdot 2+1, player II plays some xαPx_{\alpha}\in P with xβxαx_{\beta}\preceq x_{\alpha} for all β<α\beta<\alpha.
    Player I wins the game iff some player has no legal moves in some round <κ{<}\kappa. If the game last all κ\kappa rounds instead, II wins.

It is straightforward to generalize Proposition 3.18.

Proposition 3.29.

Suppose \mathbb{Q} satisfies SAA(κ,λ,𝒫)\mathrm{SAA}(\kappa,\lambda,\mathcal{P}). Then in VV^{\mathbb{Q}}, there is no surjection f:βλf\colon\beta\rightarrow\lambda for any β<κ\beta<\kappa.

Lemma 3.30.

If κ\kappa is regular and κ\diamondsuit_{\kappa} holds then \mathbb{P} satisfies

SAA(κ+1,κ+,𝒫κ(κ+))\mathrm{SAA}(\kappa+1,\kappa^{+},\mathcal{P}_{\kappa}(\kappa^{+}))

where 𝒫κ(κ+)\mathcal{P}_{\kappa}(\kappa^{+}) is ordered by inclusion.

Proof.

For x𝒫κ(κ+)x\in\mathcal{P}_{\kappa}(\kappa^{+}) we will write pxqp\leq_{x}q if pqp\leq q and px=qxp\upharpoonright x=q\upharpoonright x. It is clear that (SAA.i)(\mathrm{SAA}.i) holds.
Next, we aim to establish (SAA.iii)(\mathrm{SAA}.iii). We describe a strategy for player II in the relevant game. We will need to do some additional bookkeeping. Let

h:κκ×κh\colon\kappa\rightarrow\kappa\times\kappa

be a surjection such that if h(β)=(α,γ)h(\beta)=(\alpha,\gamma) then αβ\alpha\leq\beta. Suppose that pαp_{\alpha} is the last condition played by player I and (xβ)β<α(x_{\beta})_{\beta<\alpha} have been played already. In the background, we already have chosen some surjections sβ:κsupp(pβ)s_{\beta}\colon\kappa\rightarrow\mathrm{supp}(p_{\beta}) for β<α\beta<\alpha and we will adjoin a surjection sα:κsupp(pα)s_{\alpha}\mathrel{\mathop{\mathchar 58\relax}}\kappa\rightarrow\mathrm{supp}(p_{\alpha}) to that list. We set

xα=sγ0(γ1)β<αxβx_{\alpha}={s_{\gamma_{0}}(\gamma_{1})}\cup\bigcup_{\beta<\alpha}x_{\beta}

where (γ0,γ1)=h(α)(\gamma_{0},\gamma_{1})=h(\alpha). As κ\kappa is regular, xα𝒫κ(κ+)x_{\alpha}\in\mathcal{P}_{\kappa}(\kappa^{+}).

Claim 3.31.

Player I does not run out of moves before the game ends.

Proof.

Suppose we reached round 2ακ2\cdot\alpha\leq\kappa and let x=β<αxβx=\bigcup_{\beta<\alpha}x_{\beta}. We will find a legal play pp_{\ast} for player I. For γκ+β<αsupp(pβ)\gamma\in\kappa^{+}\setminus\bigcup_{\beta<\alpha}\mathrm{supp}(p_{\beta}), let p(γ)p_{\ast}(\gamma) be trivial. The point is that for γx\gamma\in x, pβ(γ)β<α\langle p_{\beta}(\gamma)\mid\beta<\alpha\rangle stabilizes eventually to some p(γ)p_{\ast}(\gamma). If α=κ\alpha=\kappa, then our bookkeeping made sure that we have

x=β<κsupp(pβ)x=\bigcup_{\beta<\kappa}\mathrm{supp}(p_{\beta})

so that pp_{\ast} is already fully defined and a legal play. If α<κ\alpha<\kappa instead, then there are possibly γβ<αsupp(pβ)x\gamma\in\bigcup_{\beta<\alpha}\mathrm{supp}(p_{\beta})-x, but then pβ(γ)β<α\langle p_{\beta}(\gamma)\mid\beta<\alpha\rangle is a sequence of length <κ{<}\kappa, so we may pick a lower bound p(γ)Add(κ,1)p_{\ast}(\gamma)\in\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1) for it. ∎

It remains to show (SAA.ii)(\mathrm{SAA}.ii) and here we will use that κ\diamondsuit_{\kappa} holds. Let dββ<κ\langle d_{\beta}\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle be the “κ\diamondsuit_{\kappa}-sequence for κ\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa}” that appeared in the proof of Lemma 3.25 and let AA be a maximal antichain in \mathbb{P}. Choose τ\tau to be a winning strategy for player II in 𝒢(,κ+1,𝒫κ(κ+))\mathcal{G}(\mathbb{P},\kappa+1,\mathcal{P}_{\kappa}(\kappa^{+})) and we will describe a strategy σ\sigma for player I: Suppose ακ\alpha\leq\kappa and pβp_{\beta}, xβx_{\beta} have already been played for β<α\beta<\alpha. This time, we will have picked some surjections sβ:κxβs_{\beta}\colon\kappa\rightarrow x_{\beta} for β<α\beta<\alpha in the background. Let x<αβ<αxβx_{<\alpha}\coloneqq\bigcup_{\beta<\alpha}x_{\beta}. Then, assuming there is a legal move, pick some pαp_{\alpha} so that

  1. (pα.i)(p_{\alpha}.i)

    pαxβpβp_{\alpha}\leq_{x_{\beta}}p_{\beta} for all β<α\beta<\alpha and

  2. (pα.ii)(p_{\alpha}.ii)

    if possible, pα(κ+x<α)eαx<αp_{\alpha}\upharpoonright(\kappa^{+}\setminus x_{<\alpha})\cup e_{\alpha}\upharpoonright x_{<\alpha} is below a condition in AA

where eαe_{\alpha} is defined by

eα(sγ0(γ1))=dα(γ)e_{\alpha}(s_{\gamma_{0}}(\gamma_{1}))=d_{\alpha}(\gamma)

whenever γ<α\gamma<\alpha and h(γ)=(γ0,γ1)h(\gamma)=(\gamma_{0},\gamma_{1}) (and eαe_{\alpha} is trivial where we did not specify a value)777eαe_{\alpha} may fail to be a function, in which case (pα.ii)(p_{\alpha}.ii) is void..
Let pαακ\langle p_{\alpha}\mid\alpha\leq\kappa\rangle, xαα<κ\langle x_{\alpha}\mid\alpha<\kappa\rangle be the sequences of moves played by player I and II in a game where player I follows σ\sigma and player II follows τ\tau. As τ\tau is a winning strategy, the sequence must be of length κ+1\kappa+1. We will show that qpκq\coloneqq p_{\kappa} is compatible with at most κ\kappa-many elements of AA. So let aAa\in A and assume that qq is compatible with aa.

Claim 3.32.

There is α<κ\alpha<\kappa so that eαe_{\alpha}\in\mathbb{P} and eαx<α=ax<αe_{\alpha}\upharpoonright x_{<\alpha}=a\upharpoonright x_{<\alpha}.

Proof.

We define bκb\in\mathbb{P}_{\leq\kappa} by b(γ)=a(sγ0(γ1))b(\gamma)=a(s_{\gamma_{0}}(\gamma_{1})) whenever h(γ)=(γ0,γ1)h(\gamma)=(\gamma_{0},\gamma_{1}). Then there is α<κ\alpha<\kappa with

  1. (α.i)(\alpha.i)

    bα=dαb\upharpoonright\alpha=d_{\alpha} and

  2. (α.ii)(\alpha.ii)

    x<α={sγ0(γ1)γ<αh(γ)=(γ0,γ1)}x_{<\alpha}=\{s_{\gamma_{0}}(\gamma_{1})\mid\exists\gamma<\alpha\ h(\gamma)=(\gamma_{0},\gamma_{1})\}.

It is easy to see now that α\alpha is as desired. ∎

Thus in round α2\alpha\cdot 2 in the game, player I tried to make sure that

ax<αpα(κ+x<α)a\upharpoonright x_{<\alpha}\cup p_{\alpha}\upharpoonright(\kappa^{+}\setminus x_{<\alpha})

is below some condition in AA. This is possible for aa, and only for aa as qq and aa are compatible.
We have shown that for any aAa\in A that is compatible with qq, there is α<κ\alpha<\kappa such that q(κ+x<α)a(κ+x<α)q\upharpoonright(\kappa^{+}\setminus x_{<\alpha})\leq a\upharpoonright(\kappa^{+}\setminus x_{<\alpha}). As there are only κ{\leq}\kappa-many rr\in\mathbb{P} with support contained in x<αx_{<\alpha}, this implies that there are at most κ\kappa-many such aAa\in A. ∎

Lemma 3.27 follows from Lemma 3.30 and Proposition 3.29 similarly to how we proved Corollary 3.20.

Remark 3.33.

If additionally GCH\mathrm{GCH} holds at κ+\kappa^{+} then \mathbb{P} does not collapse any cardinals at all by a standard Δ\Delta-system argument.

Proof of Theorem 3.24..

Let GG be \mathbb{P}-generic over LL. By Lemma 3.27, all LL-cardinals κ+\leq\kappa^{+} are still cardinals in L[G]L[G] (in fact, all cardinals are preserved). Let N=α<κ+L[G>α]N=\bigcap_{\alpha<\kappa^{+}}L[G_{>\alpha}]. Using that NN is definable in every model of the form L[G>α]L[G_{>\alpha}], it is easy to check that NN is a model of ZF\mathrm{ZF}. Once again, we call Aκ+A\subseteq\kappa^{+} fresh if AαLA\cap\alpha\in L for all α<κ+\alpha<\kappa^{+}.

Claim 3.34.

𝒫(κ+)𝕄κ+=𝒫(κ+)N={Aκ+A is fresh}L[G]\mathcal{P}(\kappa^{+})^{\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}}}=\mathcal{P}(\kappa^{+})^{N}=\{A\subseteq\kappa^{+}\mid A\text{ is fresh}\}^{L[G]}.

Proof.

𝒫(κ+)𝕄κ+𝒫(κ+)N\mathcal{P}(\kappa^{+})^{\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}}}\subseteq\mathcal{P}(\kappa^{+})^{N} is trivial. Suppose Aκ+,ANA\subseteq\kappa^{+},A\in N. Given α<κ+\alpha<\kappa^{+}, by Lemma 3.27, there is β<κ+\beta<\kappa^{+} so that AαL[Gβ]A\cap\alpha\in L[G_{\leq\beta}] so that

AαL[Gβ]L[G>β]=LA\cap\alpha\in L[G_{\leq\beta}]\cap L[G_{>\beta}]=L

by Fact 3.21. For the last inclusion assume AL[G]A\in L[G] is a fresh subset of κ+\kappa^{+} and WW is any κ+\kappa^{+}-ground of L[G]L[G]. It follows that WL[G]W\subseteq L[G] satisfies the κ+\kappa^{+}-approximation property so that AWA\in W as any bounded subset of AA is in LWL\subseteq W. ∎

We will show that there is no wellorder of 𝒫(κ+)𝕄κ+\mathcal{P}(\kappa^{+})^{\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}}} in 𝕄κ+\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}}. So assume otherwise. Let \sim be the equivalence relation of eventual coincidence on 2κ+{}^{\kappa^{+}}2 in NN. We can realise GG as a matrix where the α\alpha-th row is Add(κ,1)\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1)-generic over LL. Now the columns are in fact Add(κ+,1)\mathrm{Add}(\kappa^{+},1)-generic over LL. Let us write cαc_{\alpha} for the α\alpha-th column (α<κ+)\alpha<\kappa^{+}) and dβd_{\beta} for the β\beta-th row (β<κ\beta<\kappa). For any α<κ+\alpha<\kappa^{+} we have that dβ[α,κ+)β<κL[G>α]\langle d_{\beta}\upharpoonright[\alpha,\kappa^{+})\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle\in L[G_{>\alpha}]. Thus

[dβ]β<κN\langle[d_{\beta}]_{\sim}\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle\in N

and by our assumption there must be a choice function, say xββ<κ\langle x_{\beta}\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle, in NN. In L[G]L[G], we can define the sequence δββ<κ\langle\delta_{\beta}\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle, where δβ\delta_{\beta} is the least point after which xβx_{\beta} and dβd_{\beta} coincide. As κ+\kappa^{+} is not collapsed by \mathbb{P}, we can strictly bound all δβ\delta_{\beta} by some δ<κ+\delta_{\ast}<\kappa^{+}. But then

xβ(δ)β<κN\langle x_{\beta}(\delta_{\ast})\mid\beta<\kappa\rangle\in N

is Add(κ,1)\mathrm{Add}(\kappa,1)-generic over LL, which contradicts that NN and LL have the same subsets of κ\kappa. ∎

Note that Fact 1.6 does not apply in the situation here, so we may ask:

Question 3.35.

Is 𝕄κ+\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}} a model of ZF\mathrm{ZF}? Is 𝕄κ+=N\mathbb{M}_{\kappa^{+}}=N?

4 Conclusion

There are a number of open questions regarding the interplay between large cardinal properties of κ\kappa and the κ\kappa-mantle. The following table summarizes what is known as presented in the introduction.

Large cardinal property of κ\kappa Theory of 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa} extends…
extendible ZFC+GA\mathrm{ZFC}+\mathrm{GA}
measurable ZFC\mathrm{ZFC}
weakly compact ZF+κ-DC\mathrm{ZF}+\kappa\text{-}\mathrm{DC}
inaccessible ZF+(<κ,Hκ+)-choice\mathrm{ZF}+(<\kappa,H_{\kappa^{+}})\text{-choice}

There is certainly much more to discover here. How optimal are these results? Optimality has only been proven for one of them, namely the first. This is due to Gabriel Goldberg.

Fact 4.1 (Goldberg, [Gol21]).

Suppose κ\kappa is an extendible cardinal. Then there is a class forcing extension in which κ\kappa remains extendible and 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa} is not a κ\kappa-ground. In particular, if λ<κ\lambda<\kappa and 𝕄λZFC\mathbb{M}_{\lambda}\models\mathrm{ZFC} then 𝕄λ\mathbb{M}_{\lambda} has a nontrivial ground.

The most interesting question seems to be up to when exactly the axiom of choice can fail to hold in 𝕄κ\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}. Since this can happen at a Mahlo cardinal, the natural next test question is whether this is possible at a weakly compact cardinal.

Question 4.2.

Suppose that κ\kappa is weakly compact. Must 𝕄κZFC\mathbb{M}_{\kappa}\models\mathrm{ZFC}?

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