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Information loss paradox revisited: farewell firewall?

Wen-Cong Gan1    Fu-Wen Shu2,3,1 1 GCAP-CASPER, Physics Department, Baylor University, Waco, TX, 76798-7316, USA
2Department of Physics, Nanchang University, No. 999 Xue Fu Avenue, Nanchang, 330031, China
3Center for Relativistic Astrophysics and High Energy Physics, Nanchang University, No. 999 Xue Fu Avenue, Nanchang 330031, China
Abstract

Unitary evolution makes pure state on one Cauchy surface evolve to pure state on another Cauchy surface. Outgoing Hawking radiation is only subsystem on the late Cauchy surface. The requirement that Hawking radiation to be pure amounts to require purity of subsystem when total system is pure. We will see this requirement will lead to firewall even in flat spacetime, and thus is invalid. Information is either stored in the entanglement between field modes inside black hole and the outgoing modes or stored in correlation between geometry and Hawking radiation when singularity is resolved by quantum gravity effects. We will give a simple argument that even in semi-classical regime, information is (at least partly) stored in correlation between geometry and Hawking radiation.

black holes in quantum gravity, information loss paradox, firewall paradox

Firewall paradox is based on four assumptions Almheiri:2012rt :

Postulate 1: The process of formation and evaporation of a black hole, as viewed by a distant observer, can be described entirely within the context of standard quantum theory. In particular, there exists a unitary SS-matrix which describes the evolution from infalling matter to outgoing Hawking-like radiation.

Postulate 2: Outside the stretched horizon of a massive black hole, physics can be described to good approximation by a set of semi-classical field equations.

Postulate 3: To a distant observer, a black hole appears to be a quantum system with discrete energy levels. The dimension of the subspace of states describing a black hole of mass MM is the exponential of the Bekenstein entropy S(M)S(M).

Postulate 4: A freely falling observer experiences nothing out of the ordinary when crossing the horizon.

The authors of Almheiri:2012rt are referred to as AMPS. The first three postulates consist postulates of black hole complementary (BHC) Susskind:1993if . The key reason that leads to Postulate 1 in Susskind:1993if is

If the black hole evaporates completely, that information would be lost, in violation of the rules of quantum theory.

The Postulate 1 is equivalent to say Hawking radiation is pure if initially infalling matter is in pure state long before the black hole formed, because unitary evolution map pure state only to pure state. But distant observer can only access outgoing Hawking radiation. And outgoing Hawking radiation is only a subsystem because one ignores the part of the field modes inside black hole. This amounts to require subsystem to be pure in the background of the purity of the total system. We will see that it is exactly this requirement that leads to firewall paradox.

I Firewall in flat space-time

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Figure 1: Tripartite system ABRABR in pure state |vac|vac\rangle

Let us consider a tripartite system ABRABR in pure vacuum state |vac|vac\rangle in flat spacetime (figure.(1)). Then AA and BRBR are highly entangled:

|vac=npn|nA|nBR,|vac\rangle=\sum_{n}p_{n}|n\rangle_{A}|n\rangle_{BR}, (1)

Following a slightly different logic in Almheiri:2012rt , if we assume subsystem BRBR is also in pure state, i.e. SBR=0S_{BR}=0, then by the Araki-Lieb triangle inequality

SABRSA+SBR,\displaystyle S_{ABR}\leq S_{A}+S_{BR}, (2)
SABR|SASBR|,\displaystyle S_{ABR}\geq|S_{A}-S_{BR}|, (3)

we have SABR=SAS_{ABR}=S_{A}, then eq.(1) requires

SABR=SA=0.S_{ABR}=S_{A}=0. (4)

So we must have

IA,BRSA+SBRSABR=0.I_{A,BR}\equiv S_{A}+S_{BR}-S_{ABR}=0. (5)

The mutual information IA,BRI_{A,BR} is 0 if and only if ρABR=ρAρBR\rho_{ABR}=\rho_{A}\otimes\rho_{BR}, which contradicts with the fact that AA and BRBR are highly entangled (cf. eq.(1)). And AMPS concludes that there is firewall between subsystem AA and BRBR to break the entanglement. Follow this logic, we see that there exists firewall even in flat spacetime if we assume the purity of subsystem BRBR in the background of purity of the total system ABRABR. This strongly indicates the irrationality of the purity of subsystem BRBR, i.e. we cannot require subsystem to be pure when we have a pure total system.

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Figure 2: AA represents the field modes inside horizon (including infalling Hawking quanta and infalling matter), BB is late outgoing Hawking quanta (after Page time), RR is early outgoing Hawking quanta.

II Firewall in black hole space-time with singularity

When applied to the argument of AMPS, AA represents the field modes inside horizon (including infalling Hawking quanta and infalling matter), BB is late outgoing Hawking quanta (after Page time Page:1993wv ), RR is early outgoing Hawking quanta, they are on late Cauchy surface Σ2\Sigma_{2} (figure.(2)). The infalling matter which forms black hole is pure on early Cauchy surface Σ1\Sigma_{1}. We quote another postulate from Unruh:2017uaw , and call it Postulate 5:

In the case of quantum field theory, the full system consists of the quantum field observables over all of spacetime, or, equivalently—assuming deterministic evolution—the quantum field observables in a neighborhood of any Cauchy surface, Σ\Sigma.

Then unitary evolution makes state ρABR\rho_{ABR} of total system on late Cauchy surface Σ2\Sigma_{2} to be pure. But Postulation 1 in AMPS require subsystem BRBR to be in pure state. If we assume Araki-Lieb triangle inequality holds also in the vicinity of black hole horizon (which is guaranteed by Postulate 2), then this leads to firewall. But as we pointed out in the previous section, we cannot require subsystem to be pure when we have a pure total system. We conclude that the assumption of the purity of Hawking radiation BRBR is invalid, i.e. Hawking radiation is always mixed when we consider pure state of total system. Then where does the information go?

As stated in Unruh:2017uaw (which is actually can be derived from Postulate 2 and Postulate 5):

The entanglement between the field in two such causally complementary regions always occurs in quantum field theory, no matter what the spacetime or the (physically acceptable) state.

When the total system is pure, the information is stored in the entanglement between subsystem AA and BRBR. Then BRBR evolves to system BRB^{\prime}R^{\prime} on non-Cauchy surface Σ3\Sigma_{3}. Even after the black hole has evaporated totally, quantum fields on Σ3\Sigma_{3} is still entangled with field modes inside the past black hole Unruh:2017uaw . Thus the information on non-Cauchy surface Σ3\Sigma_{3} alone cannot determine the initial state of black hole and information loss occurs on Σ3\Sigma_{3} without violating fundamental physics laws Unruh:2017uaw . Therefore there is no need to assume Postulate 1 as in Almheiri:2012rt ; Susskind:1993if .

Remark: Postulate 4 in Almheiri:2012rt requires purity of subsystem ABAB to make horizon smooth. However, the smoothness of horizon can be also guaranteed by the only requirement of the purity of the total system ABRABR, as it implies the existence of entanglement between AA and BRBR.

III Firewall in black hole space-time without singularity

Recently, a quantum effective model describing black hole interior is proposed Haggard:2014rza ; Ashtekar:2018cay ; Martin-Dussaud:2019wqc , in this model singularity is replaced by a smooth transition surface 𝒯\mathcal{T}, and it is connected with a white-hole-like future with asymptotically flat exterior111For other discussions on that quantum gravity effects resolves black hole singularity see also Saini:2014qpa ; Greenwood:2008ht ; Bogojevic:1998ma ; Wang:2009ay . (figure.(3)).

The causal past of future infinity i+𝒥+i^{+}\bigcup\mathcal{J^{+}} is the whole space-time in figure (3), thus we can safely admit Postulate 1 that asymptotic observer on future infinity i+𝒥+i^{+}\bigcup\mathcal{J^{+}} sees the evolution to be unitary. This is in contrast with the case in figure (2), where the causal past of future infinity i+𝒥+i^{+}\bigcup\mathcal{J^{+}} is not the whole space-time and thus there is no reason to admit Postulate 1 in this kind of space-time, because asymptotic observer on future infinity i+𝒥+i^{+}\bigcup\mathcal{J^{+}} can only access part of the information of the whole space-time. Even we admit Postulate 1 in the case of figure (3), the unitary makes the whole system ABRABR on the future infinity i+𝒥+i^{+}\bigcup\mathcal{J^{+}} to be pure, not BRBR itself. Thus in this case there is still no conflict with the Araki-Lieb triangle inequality, so no firewall will appear. In this case, information is stored in entanglement between subsystem AA and BRBR even after white hole has exploded.

Remark: We have seen that the causal structure is very important. Depending on whether the causal past of future infinity i+𝒥+i^{+}\bigcup\mathcal{J^{+}} is the whole space-time or not, different causal structure of the space-time will make Postulate 1 valid or not. Both cases, however, exclude BR as a pure state, thus exclude firewall as well.

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Figure 3: An effective model describing black hole interior where singularity is replaced by a smooth transition surface 𝒯\mathcal{T}, and it is connected with a white-hole-like future with asymptotically flat exterior.

IV Entanglement with geometry

Back-reaction of Hawking radiation is always ignored since it is small. Until Parikh and Wilczek Parikh:1999mf use tunneling to explain dynamical mechanism of Hawking radiation, then people realize the importance of back-reaction of Hawking radiation on the geometry to deal with information paradox.

Recently, authors in Perez:2014xca pointed out that based on Loop Quantum Gravity (LQG) the information also can be stored in the correlation between the Hawking quanta and the fundamental pre-geometric structures222For other discussions on correlation between geometry and field modes based on non-LQG method see also Hutchinson:2013kka ; Saini:2015dea ; Acquaviva:2017xqi . Perez:2014xca . And for course-grained observer who cannot access fundamental degrees of freedom, he/she will also see mixed state of Hawking quanta. In this case, there is also no need for firewall to make Hawking radiation pure.

One might argue that the argument in Perez:2014xca is based on quantum gravity effect which occurs only in Plank regime near the transition surface Ashtekar:2018cay which replaced the singularity in quantum gravity or in Plank regime at the end of evaporation where semi-classical approximation breaks down. How to solve the firewall paradox in semi-classical regime? We will give an argument that even in semi-classical regime information will be (at least partly) stored in correlation between Hawking quanta and geometry.

In figure (3), long before the black hole forms, the spacetime is Minkowski and the “in” state of the field modes we set to be vacuum state and thus pure. Taking into account the state of geometry, we choose the state on the Cauchy surface Σ1\Sigma_{1} to be ρFG=|vacvac||MinkowskiMinkowski|\rho_{FG}=|vac\rangle\langle vac|\otimes|Minkowski\rangle\langle Minkowski|, where FF represents field modes and GG represents geometry. Then we have

ρF\displaystyle\rho_{F} =TrG(ρFG)=|vacvac|,\displaystyle=\mathrm{Tr}_{G}(\rho_{FG})=|vac\rangle\langle vac|, (6)
ρG\displaystyle\rho_{G} =TrF(ρFG)=|MinkowskiMinkowski|,\displaystyle=\mathrm{Tr}_{F}(\rho_{FG})=|Minkowski\rangle\langle Minkowski|, (7)

and we choose the state on the Cauchy surface Σ2\Sigma_{2} to be some unknown state ρFG\rho_{F^{\prime}G^{\prime}} with the properties:

ρF\displaystyle\rho_{F^{\prime}} =TrG(ρFG)=ρHawking,\displaystyle=\mathrm{Tr}_{G^{\prime}}(\rho_{F^{\prime}G^{\prime}})=\rho_{Hawking}, (8)
ρG\displaystyle\rho_{G^{\prime}} =TrF(ρFG)=ρblackhole.\displaystyle=\mathrm{Tr}_{F^{\prime}}(\rho_{F^{\prime}G^{\prime}})=\rho_{black\ hole}. (9)

If the evolution is unitary

ρFG=UρFGU,\rho_{F^{\prime}G^{\prime}}=U\rho_{FG}U^{\dagger}, (10)

then entropy S=Tr(ρlnρ)S=-\mathrm{Tr}(\rho\ln\rho) is invariant:

SFG=SFG.S_{FG}=S_{F^{\prime}G^{\prime}}. (11)

And the mutual information is increasing:

IFGIFG=(SF+SGSFG)(SF+SGSFG)>0,I_{F^{\prime}G^{\prime}}-I_{FG}=(S_{F^{\prime}}+S_{G^{\prime}}-S_{F^{\prime}G^{\prime}})-(S_{F}+S_{G}-S_{FG})>0, (12)

because SFSFS_{F^{\prime}}\geq S_{F} and SG>SGS_{G^{\prime}}>S_{G}. Thus even though there may be no entanglement between field modes and geometry at the beginning, there will be such entanglement after black hole has formed. And information will be stored in entanglement between field modes and geometry even in semi-classical regime. Thus we cannot assume Hawking quanta to be pure and there is no need for firewall to make it pure.

Remark: even though there are some comments Bouhmadi-Lopez:2019hpp on the asymptotic behavior of the quantum effective model in Ashtekar:2018cay , the derivation in Perez:2014xca and our argument based on eq.(6) to eq.(12) do not rely on asymptotic behavior in the model.

V Conclusion

In summary, if we insist on Postulate 5, i.e. the unitary from Cauchy surface to Cauchy surface, then we cannot assume Hawking radiation to be pure and thus there is no need of firewall. Information is either stored in the entanglement between field modes inside black hole and the outgoing modes even after black hole has totally evaporated or stored in correlation between geometry and Hawking radiation when singularity is resolved by quantum gravity effects.

Acknowledgements

We thank Anzhong Wang for valuable discussions. W.-C.G. is supported by Baylor University through the Baylor Physics graduate program. This work was supported in part by the National Natural Science Foundation of China under grant numbers 11975116, and Jiangxi Science Foundation for Distinguished Young Scientists under grant number 20192BCB23007.
 

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